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In October 2015, I was driving home on the M1 motorway at 5am, listening to Radio 4's Eddie Mare programme and he was commenting on the unsolved murder of Elsie, and had commissioned a private investigation into the crime and see if they could uncover more evidence that would lead to the murderer of Elsie.
So 2 years into researching this case for ourselves, we investigated the area and murder site in West Yorkshire.
We retraced Elsie's last steps from Horbury Lagoon to the ABC steps.
This first Video explains the murder, the area and where the murder took place and where Elsie fell.
The investigation is ongoing, and part 2 of our paranormal investigation with the evidence we are writing about here will be published on this site at a later date, so we do not compromise the ongoing police investigation.
The evidence and footage of our finding is compelling.
The GITUK paranormal investigators the first crew to investigate the 1965 murder site of Elsie Frost
Please remember that this is still an ongoing police murder investigation, and if you follow us and investigate the site yourselves, please remember to be respectfull as Elsie's brother Colin and sister Anne are still alive and be respectfull of the site and to Elsie, also do not do anything to predjudice the police investigation.
There have been other suspects and theories;
One was that Elsie had stumbled across two men engaged in a homosexual act (homosexuality was illegal in Britain up until 1967).
Another witness has described seeing a man in his mid-twenties, dressed in white overalls and on a bike. This led to suggestions that the man, who could be a witness, was a butcher's delivery boy or an abattoir worker.
Another theory was that Elsie was meeting up with someone in the days before her death, possibly a boyfriend. Elsie's father had said that the night before the killing, she went to Balne Lane Youth Club in her best clothes, rather than her normal attire and she had asked to stay out later than usual.
Another lead was proffered by a school friend of Elsie's, who, as a nurse, had heard of a third-hand account of a man confessing in hospital to being her killer. This tied in with the homosexual act angle as the man apparently confessed to that taking place and being the reason behind Elsie's death. Whilst this new information was forwarded to the police, it is unreliable because of its third-hand nature and the man was under the influence of drugs when he made his confession.
On 27 September 2016, it was announced that Thames Valley Police had arrested a 78-year-old man in connection with Elsie's death.
It was revealed on 29 September 2016 that the man had been bailed after his arrest.
On 6 March 2017 it was reported that the same man had been re-arrested in connection with Elsie's death and that he was also being questioned in relation to an unconnected allegation of rape and kidnap in 1972.
The case is still ongoing as of 24th October 2017.
Part 1 of our Paranormal Investigation of Elsie Frost, the murder details, timeline and location
Ian Brady Myra Hindley
The Murder site where Elsie was found. Copyright West Yorkshire Police.
Ghost Investigation Team's alternate theory in to Elsie's death.
Whilst the Ghost Investigation Team were researching Elsie’s case, we directed our attention outside of the box of the West Yorkshire Police investigation, and turned our attention to the Greater Manchester Police investigation in to what was then evolving at the time, The Moors Murderers.
The time line fits and Myra’s love of sailing had us thinking as to why Myra would be in West Yorkshire area of Horbury Lagoon and give a motive as to why we believe that Myra Hindley was the murderer of Elsie Frost.
So why haven’t West Yorkshire and Greater Manchester forces joined up the dots?
Remember, there was no internet in 1960. Police forces were not joined up, each force were separate entities to each other.
Was the Moors murderer Myra Hindley responsible for the brutal knife killing of 14 Year old Elsie Frost on the 9th October 1965 after leaving a sailing event and murdered whilst walking back to her home, attacked inside a dis-used rail tunnel stabbed 5 times.
Myra Hindley was just as "ruthless as I was", Ian Brady claimed, as he revealed that it was his lover who began the knife attack on their first victim.
Brady told Dr Keightley that it was in fact Hindley who attempted to kill their first victim, 16-year-old Pauline Reade, before he did.
He said that Hindley had lured Pauline into a van that the couple used to take her to Saddleworth Moor.
Brady claimed that Hindley's "expression was taunting and pitiless" as they abused the girl and said that before he could fetch his knife from the van, Myra Hindley was already stabbing Pauline.
We also looked in to whether or not Peter Sutcliffe (The Yorkshire Ripper) could have been involved, but quickly dismissed this.
Elsie Frost Murder, 9th October 1965
On 1st July 2017, GITUK paranormal investigators conducted the first paranormal investigation of the murder site of Elsie Frost, this was conducted with respect and the investigation turned out to be the most emotionally charged investigation we have ever done.
Elsie was just in the right place at the wrong time.
Frost had spent the afternoon at Snapethorpe School's sailing club on Horbury Lagoon, a lake next to the Calder and Hebble canal. When she and her friends left between 3:50 pm and 4:00 pm,
Frost took a different route to the others, avoiding the canal tow-path to prevent her new shoes getting muddy. She was attacked whilst walking underneath the railway line that runs between Wakefield Kirkgate and Horbury. Frost was stabbed five times: twice in the head, once in the hand and twice in the back, with one of the knife wounds piercing her heart, which killed her. The wound in her hand led the police to believe that it was sustained whilst trying to defend herself. The post-mortem showed that Elsie had died of shock and blood loss.
She made it through the underpass and collapsed at the bottom of the ABC steps, as they are known locally (because there are 26 of them). She was found at 4:15 pm by a man who was out walking with his 3- and 5-year-old children.
Over 1,200 written statements were taken down, four hundred people who lived within a 0.25 mi (0.40 km) radius of the murder scene were traced and had their movements checked, over 12,000 men were interviewed and a large number of knives of local residents were examined.
In a series of never-before-seen handwritten notes, Brady, 79, describes playing card games and going sailing with 'M' - in an apparent reference to killer Myra Hindley .
So we know Hindley was just as capable of committing murder as Brady was! We also learn that Hindley liked to sail, so was Hindley at Horbury Lagoon on 9th Oct 1965, the same day Elsie was there?
Did Hindley follow Elsie home, and as Elsie entered the tunnel, out of sight of potential passers-by did Hindly strike and stab Elsie 5 times?
This would also concur with the evidence that Elsie was not raped, as she was killed by a woman. Was Hindley interrupted and unable to remove Elsie to her car and then drive to saddleworth moor to dispose of the body in a shallow grave, in a copycat kill, to prove to Brady that she was just as capable as he was, or an attempt to keep impressing Brady or a show to Brady that she was better than he was?
What could the motive be? We believe that this was the act of a delusional woman wanting to make her mark by stalking and then killing a person in her own right, as the net was closing in on her, as Myra was arrested 2 days later on 11th October.
Why would Yorkshire Police even think about linking Elsies death to the Moors murders, easy, Brady was only just arrested and the facts of the case weren't fully revealed at the start of Elsies murder enquiry,
Despite an intensive police enquiry that was coupled with national coverage (the manhunt was the biggest that the city of Wakefield had ever seen), the police were unable to establish a motive for the crime or indeed, if Elsie was the intended victim or a passer-by to whom the worst had happened. The manhunt was later expanded to include the army and also involved the use of metal detectors in an attempt to find the murder weapon.
Ian Brady and his partner, Myra Hindley, were responsible for the murders of five children and teenagers between 1963 - 1965.
They lured their victims to their home in Manchester, where they were sexually tortured and later buried on Saddleworth Moor above the city.
Their first victim was Pauline Reade, 16, who was taken on her way to a disco on July 12 1963.
In November that year, John Kilbride, 12, disappeared after being snatched from Ashton Market.
Keith Bennett, 12, was taken on June 16 1964 after he left home to visit his grandmother.
Lesley Ann Downey, 10, was lured away from a funfair on Boxing Day 1964.
Edward Evans, 17, was killed in October 1965. His body was found in a spare room in the couple's house, leading to their arrest and later imprisonment.
Brady - 7th October 1965
Hindley - 11th October 1965 (2 days after the murder of Elsie Frost).
Brady was given life at Chester Assizes court in 1966 for the murders of John, Lesley Ann and Edward.
Hindley was convicted of killing Lesley Ann and Edward and shielding Brady after John's murder, and jailed for life.
In 1987 the pair finally admitted killing Keith and Pauline.
Page last updated on 24th October 2017